Tuesday, March 01, 2005

Soft on Crime

The U.S. court system has banned capital punishment for people under 18.

Now my position on offing people is complex. I certainly feel there are people who deserve it. I could even volunteer some people if society ran out of criminals. There are, however, only two avenues that society has to accomplish this. The first is an angry mob of the community's lowest common denounciators. The other is the state. There have been a number of cases in Canada and the U.S. where, even when provided with glaring evidence that someone was wrongly convicted, the police and government prosecutors have fallen back on the "he was convicted in a court of law so he is guilty" rational for opposing any investigation or appeal. It does not matter how many witnesses recant, how many revelations of forced confessions come out, how much evidence was fabricated. He was convicted. He is guilty. "I won, damn it!" seems to be some kind of legal principal. In short, I would take my chances with the angry mob.

But if the U.S. stops treating everyone as responsible under the law they may end up with a situation like this. Babies running loose on the streets looting and causing criminal damage. I shudder to think what these kids would have been like if they had been born into the presence of video games and music videos.

Is this the kind of world you want? Well not me. Smaller tables for smaller executions! Use a T.V. tray if you have to. Once they are out of the womb even the pro-life crowd stop caring. If they are old enough to commit crimes against the laws of man, God or nature they should pay the piper. The piper being the nation's police and prosecutors, at least until we can get some torches for that mob. But then I was not taught logic and reason in school, remember?


At Wed. Mar. 02, 12:50:00 a.m. 2005, Blogger Brad Warbiany said...

Personally, I believe in capital punishment. However, I think in some states, the burden of proof before capital punishment is invoked is not quite high enough.

But I definitely agree with your point in the previous post about not teaching logic. Again, as I usually do, I blame the state-run education system.

I bring this up often, but I am forced to again bring up this quote:

"Do we really think that a government-dominated education is going to produce citizens capable of dominating their government, as the education of a truly vigilant self-governing people requires?" [Alan Keyes]

At Wed. Mar. 02, 09:24:00 a.m. 2005, Blogger Apesnake said...

I agree

Parents and students who are forced by circumstances to use the public education system should be warned that it is incumbent upon them to make up for the deficiencies in the system. Perhaps an alternative supplementary education system should be adopted, where logic, reason, skepticism, critical thinking, math, science, history etc. are actually encouraged. If kids pass the age appropriate tests they could put this on college and job applications. It could be freely funded by universities to increase the caliber of applicants and reputation driven with surveys being done to show how students who do the program compare with those who do not in the work place and in higher education. It would also show employers that the student, or at least his or her family valued education and did not sit back passively and absorb what was spoon fed to them.

Just a thought.

As far as the death penalty goes, personally I think that murderers and other violent psychopaths, as well as pedophiles, instead of being killed should forfeit enough of their rights to be studied neurologically with or without their consent. I am not talking Joseph Mengele stuff, just MRIs, pychological and personality tests, comparative genetics, extensive case histories etc. Much of this would not even require their cooperation. These people are deviants at the extreme end of the human spectrum and as such hold valuable information. I think that after all society loses from the existence of these people we deserve to get something in return. Especially if it could lead to diagnosis and treatment of their conditions. I certainly don't feel that crime is a medical condition. Many psychopaths and the like live law abiding, even productive lives. That being said most criminals are, to some extent psychopathic personalities and learning about what makes these people escalate could be useful in preventing similar escalation once diagnosed in young offenders. Depression was once considered a character issue but I have several years of university successfully attained under influence of medication that I was unable to attain before treatment. In some cases, drugs can solve your problems. ;-)

Killing these people should only be done if and when they have no more information that we need from them.


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